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Teaching in Thailand

Editor’s note: Thanks to Izzy Melia (College of Ed ’23) for writing this post! If you’re an alum who’s interested in contributing to our blog, please reach out to Mary Krawczyk.

by Izzy Melia

I graduated from Marquette in the summer of 2023. I was excited to get into the classroom and teach, but my passion for traveling and desire to see the world were still looming in my mind. When I realized I could do both, I packed my bags and moved to Thailand! 

In Thailand, I live in a town called Saraburi, which is about an hour and a half north of Bangkok. Here, I teach at an English Program in a Thai school. I am the homeroom foreign teacher for 5th grade. I also teach 6th grade English and 4th grade science. I teach 3 grades, 2 subjects, and have 101 students! 

School is quite different here. In the English Program, classes are split between Thai and English. So, each student takes half their classes in Thai and half in English. The students stay in the same classroom and the teachers switch in and out. Every 50 minutes the students switch from learning and speaking in Thai, to learning and speaking in English. This schedule works out really nice for me because it means I have a lot of time during the day to plan and prepare while the kids are in their Thai classes! 

I feel like my experiences with Marquette have prepared me well for teaching in a foreign classroom. My classes in the College of Education really focused on classroom community and teaching diverse learners. Both of which are very important for teaching in an international and multilingual classroom. With classrooms here being more traditional and having an average of 35 students per class, it can be tricky to differentiate and individualize student learning. I have definitely used skills learned in my methods classes at Marquette to explain the material in multiple ways without separating for small group work. I have also really focused on creating a welcoming learning space.

During my student teaching internship as an undergrad, my 5th grade class had a good amount of kids whose first language was not English. I got a lot of practice teaching students who were English Language Learners and working on best practices to support those students in the classroom. Learning another language is hard. Speaking it in front of a room of 40 people is even harder. I have made a huge effort to make my classroom here a supportive environment where all students can develop both their skills and comfort levels in English. 

My favorite part about living and working in Thailand has to be the people. Thai people are so friendly!  I love hearing “teacher!” from across the road and seeing a student waving or a parent on their motorbike slowing down just to say hello. Strangers will help me at the grocery store, restaurants, really anywhere I am where I am looking confused…which is most places. 

Overall, I have loved my experience and I would recommend international teaching to anyone who wants to teach but still has that urge to explore the world! Although there are some differences between schools in the United States and in Thailand, kids are the same no matter where you go in the world. They are full of creativity and curiosity, and they love Kahoot.

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Thanks again to Izzy for writing the post and sharing these great photos!

Fall Book Recommendations from Dr. Vélez

As the weather changes to fall and we start a new academic year, I know most people will not have much time for “fun” reading. Still, reading and sharing about good books is a deep part of who I am, and in case you are like me or want an escape from the heavy academic coursework, I humbly offer a few recent recommendations of worthwhile books I have picked up. I am always open to suggestions and hope you enjoy these as much as I have.

As a note, this is the latest in a semiregular series I have been writing for the College of Education blog. The previous ones can be found here and here.

The Last Hero: A Life of Henry Aaron by Howard Bryant

A local star and one of the best baseball players ever, Henry Aaron is in some ways a mythical figure. I grew up always having a vague sense of who he was, but certainly without the lore and detail that players like Joe DiMaggio, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Jackie Robinson, and others carried with them (to be fair, I did grow up in New York City). Here, Howard Bryan offers an in-depth and thoughtful exploration of Aaron’s life that forces us to consider with more nuance the intersection of race, baseball, and success. Personally, I had no idea these were part of the story of the Hammer and was left pondering these questions.

The Death and Life of the Great Lakes by Dan Egan

Climate change is all around us in striking and at times violent ways: forest fires that rage on and fill the air with smoke, stifling heat, intense storms, and more. But there are other ways that we are shaping and reshaping the environment around us that receive less attention. This book tells a horrifying, underdiscussed story about the ways our economies and treatment of the Great Lakes have affected its water and wildlife. Not an uplifting read, but it is critical that we face and understand what we are doing to our environment. Good, well-researched reads like this provide much food for thought.

Seven Days in June by Tia Williams

I read this one a while ago and will admit it was one that my library’s online algorithm randomly suggested. It’s a different style of book than I usually read, but I found it engaging and a good foray into a different genre. The protagonist is a successful fantasy writer, member of the Black literary elite, and single mother with deep trauma and a short, intense romance in her past. During an emotional and flashback-filled seven days, she reconnects with her past lover. Overall, I found it surprisingly both light and heavy in varied ways, and a quick enjoyable read throughout.

Generations by Jean M. Twenge

This summer when my youngest daughter was in her 6th month of life, I spent a lot of time walking her around in the carrier (reading while I walked) or sitting with her in our rocker (reading books on my phone while I rocked). I made it through 11 books that month. This one really stood out to me as I glanced down at little Anna and thought about what her future will be like. I am a Millennial—though I cringe at the term—and this book offered insights into myself and my peers, as well as our differences how current groups of young people and those older than us (like my brother and the Gen Xers). It is based on a mountain of data with many charts throughout but still provides clear takeaways about generational differences that move beyond the stereotypes, and tropes—e.g., “okay Boomer”—that are out there.

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Dr. Gabriel Vélez is an assistant professor in the Department of Educational Policy and Leadership and the Educational Policy and Foundations Program Coordinator.

Back in the Hartman Literacy and Learning Center: 2022 Tragil Wade-Johnson Summer Reading Program

As of June 20, Marquette University’s Schroeder Complex and Hartman Literacy and Learning Center has been revived with the joyous and playful presence of boys and girls from Milwaukee-area schools participating in the “2022 Tragil Wade-Johnson Summer Reading Program. This year’s program features students from Notre Dame School, Messmer St. Rose School, Stellar Elementary, Milwaukee German Immersion, MacDowell, Siefert Elementary, Underwood Elementary, Downtown Montessori and Milwaukee College Prep.

Each day of learning begins at 8:30 a.m. with about 20-25 minutes of sports, physical activity in the front courtyard of the Schroeder Complex. Students then begin classes at 9:00 a.m. until 10:30 a.m. During their reading sessions, the students then go to the Hartman Center classrooms where they begin practicing vocabulary, fluency, phonetics, the alphabet, and reading comprehension with their respective educators. This year the summer reading program has 10 educators in charge of accompanying their students in their literary empowerment. The work and accompaniment of these educators is crucial to avoid summer reading melting, an effect that is overcome by providing students with an environment committed to literacy.

The program will end on July 22.


A partir del 20 de junio, el Complejo Schroeder y el Centro de Alfabetización y Aprendizaje Hartman de la Universidad de Marquette se han animado con la presencia alegre y lúdica de niños y niñas de las escuelas del área de Milwaukee que participan en el “Programa de Lectura de Verano 2022 Tragil Wade-Johnson”. El programa de este año cuenta con estudiantes de la escuela Notre Dame, la escuela Messmer St. Rose, la escuela primaria Stellar, la escuela de inmersión en alemán de Milwaukee, la escuela MacDowell, la escuela primaria Siefert, la escuela primaria Underwood, la escuela Montessori del centro de la ciudad y la escuela superior Milwaukee College Prep.

Cada día de aprendizaje comienza a las 8:30 de la mañana con unos 20-25 minutos de deporte, actividad física en el patio delantero del Complejo Schroeder. A continuación, los estudiantes comienzan las clases a las 9:00 a.m. hasta las 10:30 a.m. Durante sus sesiones de lectura, los estudiantes se dirigen a las aulas del Centro Hartman donde comienzan a practicar el vocabulario, la fluidez, la fonética, el alfabeto y la comprensión de lectura con sus respectivos educadores. Este año el programa de lectura de verano cuenta con 10 educadores encargados de acompañar a sus alumnos en su potenciación literaria. La labor y el acompañamiento de estos educadores es crucial para evitar el deshielo de la lectura en verano, efecto que se supera al proporcionar a los alumnos un entorno comprometido con la alfabetización.

El programa finalizará el 22 de julio.

Spring Book Recommendations from Dr. Vélez


Music is History by Questlove

Beginning with the year of his birth, Questlove takes the reader through a reflective historical journey of music, singers, and the stories behind them that shaped his childhood and life. The knowledge, passion, and history that Questlove integrates throughout this book is really remarkable. It is also one of those books that makes you feel as a reader that you are there engaging with the author directly. Questlove’s voice is so clear and engaging, and he weaves in personal stories that are truly remarkable. It is no surprise to me that he also is a professor at New York University. I would bet his course reviews are quite positive.

Lu by Jason Reynolds

Part of a young adult series, this short read tells the story of a star adolescent sprinter with albinism. My interest in the book was maybe piqued by being a runner in high school myself, but the book also addresses themes of identity, family, and peer groups quite well (and I especially appreciate as a developmental psychologist).  I don’t want to give too much away, but the story is quick, interesting, and led me down a road of reading the other books in the series telling the stories of Lu’s teammates.

This Is the Voice by John Colapinto

For months my partner encouraged me to pick up this non-fiction account of the importance, development, and intricacies of an underappreciated part of our bodies and social connection: our voice. She was right; as soon as I picked it up, I was engaged in the way the author weaves together a compelling personal, biological (i.e., what goes into the different ways we use our voice), psychological, developmental, and sociological story about the human voice. I learned so much in reading this work, and certainly think differently about different parts of my life, from my younger son’s emerging vocabulary, to listening to my favorite singers, to when my throat hurts after a long day of teaching.

The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson

At times, I will admit, I struggled with keeping focus in what ultimately was a thought-provoking climate change novel.  The book is centered on the compelling story of the protagonist who runs a new office within the United Nations charged with addressing the needs of future generations. In other words, in the context of climate change and disasters, this office acts in defense of future people’s and their wellbeing. All in all, the novel opened my eyes to political dynamics and possible avenues of action in relation to climate change that I had never considered.


Do you have a book recommendation that you would like to share with Dr. Vélez? Send an email with your recommendation to gabriel.velez@marquette.edu!

Dr. Vélez is an assistant professor in the College of Education. He joined the Marquette community in 2019. To learn more about Dr. Vélez, be sure to check out our ‘getting to know’ article featuring him, by clicking here.

College of Education Student Featured in “Paying it Forward” series with Dr. Howard Fuller

College of Education graduate student, Saúl López, was recently featured in Marquette’s “Paying it Forward” series with Dr. Howard Fuller. Fuller, distinguished professor emeritus of education, retired from Marquette in 2020. An activist for educational opportunities, he joined Marquette as the Educational Opportunity Program’s associate director from 1979-1983. He went on to found the Institute for Transformation of Learning in 1995. Fuller has been an advocate of equitable education. And has also served as superintendent of Milwaukee Public Schools.

In this four-part series, Fuller’s life and activism are highlighted through a series of conversations with students ranging from High School to Graduate school. The series hopes to foster conversations and inspire students and future activists. López, a Ph.D. student in the EDPL program, was part of the discussion titled, “Big picture lessons from efforts to improve education outcomes for students, particularly low-income Black students, in Milwaukee and nationwide” (embedded below) where he discussed the issues impacting both local and national educational spaces.

The full list of discussions can be found here.

College of Education Hosts MPS Community School Youth Councils During Finals Week

While Marquette students were busy taking finals and finishing up papers, the halls of the college of education were filled with the energy and zeal of high schoolers. A group of approximately 20 students from Bradley Tech, James Madison Academic Campus, and Washington High school came to Marquette as part of their Community School Youth Council facilitation. Dr. Julissa Ventura, Assistant Professor in the college of education, began collaborating with the Milwaukee Community Schools Partnership back in 2020.

In room 112, the students were welcomed by Latrice Harris-Collins, Director of Community Relations & Outreach for Undergraduate Admissions. Where she spoke to students about finding their passion and getting to know themselves before committing to a particular major. After the energizing and motivating talk from Latrice, the students spent time learning how to carry out “Community Conversations” with their local leaders, teachers, and community members. 

Latrice Harris-Collins speaks to students about Marquette’s colleges and majors
Samira and Lesly speak to students about Marquette

For lunch, the students visited the Hartman Literacy Center and listened to some guest speakers. One of the speakers, Samira Payne, Director of Black Student Initiatives, spoke to students about campus initiatives to enroll, retain, and graduate underrepresented students. She also highlighted programs such as Urban Scholars and the Umoja: Black Living Learning Community. Along with Samira, Lesly Ventura, Resident Assistant at the Nuestro Hogar Living Learning Community talked about campus life and the importance of finding a community of friends and support. 

It was an absolute pleasure to have hosted these wonderful students. It is our hope that some students attend the College of Education and decide to pursue a career in education.


To learn more about the Community School model and about the different Community Schools in Milwaukee, click here

To learn more about Marquette’s college of education, click here.

Conexiones: Cristo Rey Trailblazers at Marquette

Jamonte Spencer, CRJ ’25
Working at his desk in the Hartmann Center

If you are to walk into the Hartmann Literacy Center on a Wednesday, you can expect to be greeted by a young man wearing a Cristo Rey uniform and a smile so big his mask can’t even hide it. Jamonte Spencer, Freshman at Cristo Rey, joined the College of Education this past semester as part of his Corporate Work Study assignment. I was able to sit down and chat with him about life and other things that are of interest to a ninth-grader. 

Jamonte enjoying a break in between work!

I interrupted Jamonte’s lunch, which consisted of a big bag of pretzels. When I asked him about what he did, he proudly showed me the pages sprawled on his desk and said, “I’ve been working on my blog posts.” These blog posts were filled with Jamonte’s edits and red ink. Jamonte explained to me that he was tasked with writing “catching up” blog posts meant to highlight the other great people working in the College of Education. He told me that he enjoys writing and that writing blog posts have helped him gain experience and help him put himself “out there” in the Marquette community. When he first found out that he would be writing blog posts Jamonte told me, “I was shocked. I didn’t know what to expect…But I [was] down for a challenge”. Since then, Jamonte has been scheduling interviews, sending follow-up emails, and working alongside his supervisor to draft and polish his blog posts. 

The blog posts have not been published yet but expect to see them soon. Jamonte says that the blog posts are just the beginning of his life plan. He says that his “main target” is playing football (he plays wide receiver), working hard at Cristo Rey, and playing Madden with his family and friends. Down the line, Jamonte hopes to own, operate, and run a business in Milwaukee. 

“It’s not really about the money.I want the money to help my community, Wisconsin and Milwaukee”

Jamonte also mentioned that one day he hopes to write a book about “life”. Wise words from a 14-year-old. But for now, Jamonte patiently waits to see his blog posts be published and carries the sort of wisdom and patience that is hard to find in other students his age. 

College of Ed. Book Recs: Dr. Gabriel Vélez

Reading has always been a part of my life and one of my go-to hobbies.  As a young kid, I loved the library—and recently have rediscovered this joy—and still have vivid memories of spinning their summer reading wheel to figure out what genre to choose next as I tried to get to the 10 book goal for vacation time. It was after one of these spins that I remember picking out a classic. It might have been a coming-of-age story like Catcher in the Rye or a dystopian story like 1984, but it was a classic.  As I delved into the book and was enjoying it, I started excitedly babbling about it to my parents, who were always supportive of my reading habits. I distinctly remember my father saying to me, oh yeah, I remember reading that. When I asked what he thought about it, he replied, oh I don’t remember what it is about.

At some point during my adulthood, this memory came back to me and stuck with me.  I was finding the same thing happening to me often; deep into a conversation with someone about good books, we find a point of connection and I can’t remember what the book was about.  So I decided to keep a list of every book I have read, with little notes about when and short synopses to jog my memory.  This list has stopped and started at different points in my life, but when I came to the Milwaukee area over two years ago, I began one that I still update to this day. I’ll be honest—I don’t include the ones we read to our children, since I don’t think I will have any trouble remembering the Hungry Hungry Caterpillar story after reading it for the 200th, 1000th, 15000th (who knows?) time. With almost 200 books on my personal list now, it is fun for me to return to look it over and return to some of my favorites. While I love becoming immersed in the stories and writing of each one, it is almost equally pleasurable—and a good way to remember my takeaways from them—to share this with others.

With that in mind, I wanted to share with our College of Education and the broader community, in no particular order, some of the recent books that have stood out to me.  

Born A Crime by Trevor Noah

Born a Crime by Trevor Noah

This book is quite engaging.  Noah’s style and humor are interwoven with themes related to race, poverty, family, and childhood and adolescence (which of course always grabs my attention as a developmental psychologist). I admit that I have not seen much of Noah’s work before reading this book and was struck by how the depth of some of these themes is paired with such laugh-out-loud memories and stories.  It was a real joy to read, while still making me think and rethink what I thought I knew about South Africa and race.

Leonard and Hungry Paul by Rónán Hession

Another read that had me laughing and re-reading quotes to my family. This book is understated in that its main plot will most likely not grab you if you read a short synopsis, but the cleverness, the use of language, and the characters bring it to life and truly engage me.  Just to leave you with a sliver of both the profound and hilarious nature of the book, I offer this quote: “Everyone talking and thinking out loud, with no space or oxygen left for quiet statements and silence. In a way, it’s not just about being a spokesman for the National Mime Association, but a spokesman for silence itself.”

Obie is Man Enough by Schuyler Bailar

Obie Is Man Enough by Schuyler Bailar

I will be honest, I came across this story about a transgender middle school swimmer by accident.  In looking for new reads in the Wisconsin Public Library system through my phone, I often have no idea how the algorithms work to put books on my list of potential reads.  I chose this one a bit at random (it probably speaks to the cover design), but then found myself immersed in the story. I certainly can’t speak to the transgender experience or how this book represents it, but I will say that it opened my eyes to issues, lived realities, and resiliencies that I had not considered before. Reading it was felt like one of those great moments of your empathy being expanded as you consider the perspective of a character you had never deeply considered before.

Permission to Feel by Marc Brackett

Permission To Feel By Marc Brackett, Ph.D.

The author of this book is the founding director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and creator of the RULER social-emotional learning curriculum. The book is a thoughtful articulation of his work and research to a public audience; unlike many pop psychology books, it does not attempt to be catchy or trendy but is quite genuine and sincere. He draws on his personal experience and offers evidence for the importance of considering emotion, as well as the challenges and concrete strategies for teachers, parents, and employers/employees to build emotional intelligence. One of the most striking takeaways for me was realizing how relatively limited my emotional vocabulary tends to be day in and day out.

Five Most Recent Books I Have Read (because I have to leave you with more)

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Dr. Gabriel Vélez is an assistant professor in the College of Education. He joined the Marquette community in 2019. To learn more about Dr. Vélez, be sure to check out our ‘getting to know’ article featuring him, by clicking here.

Remembering & Forgetting in Walker’s Point

Stand at the corner of 5th and National, and here’s what you see: An antique store, a dance studio, a purple-doored hamburger joint, and a row of Bubblr bikes for rent. The busy intersection is gritty, somewhere between industrial and cool, sort of gentrified but also still unpolished. The rumble of the interstate one block west is a reminder of the neighborhood’s centrality, as are the three rivers that border it.

This is Walker’s Point.


​Near this intersection on 5th Street is a hybrid hair salon/plant shop, Folia. Intricately carved wood pillars frame the windows, which are full of dripping monsteras and pathos. It’s the kind of shop where everything is hip: the elegant block lettering on the signage; the restored wood in deep auburn stain; the cellar doors locked tight with old-fashioned devices; the upcycled chandeliers; the cream city brick. It’s a spot that seems emblematic of the current vision for Walker’s Point, sitting at the crossroads of history, industry, and young urban money.

If you look next to the door, though, you’ll see a small medallion mounted on the brick: the designation of a Walker’s Point neighborhood landmark. No other information is given. Lucky for my students and me, though, we were walking the block with historian and native Milwaukeean Sergio González, and he filled in what the medallion left out. This building was the original home of the Our Lady of Guadalupe Chapel, the first mission established by Milwaukee’s Mexican community in 1926. And in this one building, with this one group of students and teachers on this one block of Milwaukee, we have a crystallized snapshot of how we remember and forget in our Milwaukee.


​When I told my Wednesday students that we were going on an expedition to Walker’s Point, I got a lot of blank stares. While two of the students were familiar with the neighborhood—specifically its Día de Muertos altars—the rest knew nothing. This surprised me. Half of my Wednesday group are Latinx, and Walker’s Point has the largest concentration of Spanish speakers in the state. Plus, Walker’s Point is Milwaukee’s “it” neighborhood right now; had they really not heard of Zócalo and the Selena mural and Purple Door Ice Cream?

Spoiler alert: They really hadn’t.

So when we walked into the Walker’s Point Center for the Arts, the students had few expectations beyond wanting to make it to the food trucks before our bus left at 3pm. But so much instantly called out to us: Letterpressed posters in Spanish and English begging for better driving. Mosaic art declaring “Black Vidas Matter.” Spanish conversations in the background. Before we’d even gotten to the academic part of our visit, the girls were chatting with the mosaic artist, an alumna of their same Catholic school, as well as the gallery director, who used to work in the school’s admissions office. This place they didn’t know was just one step removed from spaces and places in Milwaukee that they considered home.
During the official “history” part of our visit, Dr. González told us the story of Milwaukee’s Mexican American community. He told us how Rafael Baez migrated to Milwaukee from Puebla in 1863; the first known Mexican immigrant in Milwaukee, Baez was an accomplished musician and a professor at Marquette University. The 1920s brought wider spread migration when the Pfister-Vogel Tannery imported labor from Mexico. Although the tannery was only concerned with a short-term labor supply, the Mexican American community that sprung up and stayed has since become an essential part of Milwaukee’s community fabric. And that community has been centered right here in Walker’s Point.

Yet so much of this fabric is being erased. Not completely—“Milwaukee’s too segregated for that,” locals remark—but still noticeably so. For example, a neighborhood landmark, the blockwide La Fuente restaurant, was recently demolished with little fanfare, its Selena mural crumbling to make way for a new condo development. A recent Washington Post article recommending Walker’s Point as a home base when visiting Milwaukee mentions none of this. Instead, the WaPo article vaguely says, “No one Milwaukee neighborhood gives a complete portrait of the city, but Walker’s Point comes closer than most. In addition to prestigious restaurants, this centrally located district is home to some of Milwaukee’s bustling sports bars, the liveliest gay clubs, and the tastiest tacos.” Amid the art galleries and mid-century furniture stores, glass pantries, and CBD shops, it can feel like Walker’s Point’s Mexican American foundations are being pushed aside to make space for the new Milwaukee. Folia and its silent history as the first Mexican American church in Milwaukee (the shop’s owners didn’t even know they were in a former chapel!) are emblematic of this erasure.

I think of this again a few days later when I hear Sergio on the radio, talking about the lack of National Historic Landmarks commemorating Milwaukee’s Latino community. “The way in which we recognize specific places as being historically relevant in many ways dictates what we think is important about who we are as a people. And the fact that Latinos don’t have any recognized place in the National Register speaks to that larger forgetting of a century-long history of our people in the state,” Sergio said. Even here in Walker’s Point, it can be easy to forget how important the Mexican American community has long been to Milwaukee.

Which was why we were here. When I first asked my Wednesday students what they wanted to explore about Milwaukee’s history, they rattled off the expected: The Pfister Hotel. The Pabst Mansion. The Milwaukee Public Museum. They also begged to head farther afield: the lakefront, the suburbs, maybe even Chicago. To them, exploring Milwaukee meant exploring a Milwaukee they didn’t consider their own. But here in Walker’s Point, we were reminded that, not only is all of Milwaukee our Milwaukee (case in point: Where did the Pfister fortune that funded the hotel come from? The labor of Mexican migrants right here in Walker’s Point), but all of Milwaukee is worth exploring. All around us is evidence of remembering and forgetting, and so much of what we forget is the history of communities that don’t build hotels, that don’t have the power to declare National Landmarks, that don’t have the wealth to resist demolition. Even more specifically, too much of the history we forget is the history of communities of color.

But I also wanted them to see that, even in the familiar parts of our city, there are layered histories just beneath the surface. For example, while the thriving Zócalo food truck part might seem at first glance like an emblem of gentrification, that surface-level understanding is complicated by the fact that the founder, Sergio’s cousin, has family roots in Walker’s Point. In fact, the González family (baby Sergio included) was once featured on the cover of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, on the steps of the Our Lady of Guadalupe church in Walker’s Point, for a special issue on Milwaukee’s Mexican American community. Entrepreneurial success is understood differently when it is of the community, not replacing the community.

Or take Xela, the director of the arts center where we began our neighborhood visit. She is a newly elected member of the Milwaukee Public Schools board of directors. As a Milwaukee transplant based in Walker’s Point, she straddles this history and carries it forward into the present-day politics of our city and its institutions. She embodies Walker’s Point: past, present, future.


​I am reminded of this the week after our Walker’s Point visit when my co-facilitator and I introduce the students to their next task. They are going to collect stories in their own neighborhoods, just like we did in Walker’s Point. Photos, selfies, soundscapes, and interviews, they are going to think about what remembering and forgetting look like in their immediate worlds. As we learn about oral history from Professor Rob Smith, we ask who they might want to interview in their own neighborhoods. Whose stories in their communities were worth collecting? Jamila quickly offers up her grandma, and then the room is otherwise silent until Aracely sucks her teeth and says to the ceiling, “Nobody. Nobody in my neighborhood is worth interviewing.” There is a pause, and then voices speak up: “What about a barber?” “Yeah, or a corner store owner?” “I’ve got a neighbor that has lived here forever.” “Do you think I could interview the kids that sit on the corner?” Even as our list of potential interviewees grows, Aracely’s dismissive “nobody” sits with me, as if there are no stories worth collecting in her world. And that becomes the ultimate forgetting. But we refuse to forget, and so instead we all prod her with ideas as if to remind her: Your Milwaukee matters, and there are stories here worth collecting. Your Milwaukee is worth remembering, too.


Dr. Gibson has given permission to have her reflections about this ongoing work with Dr. Doerr-Stevens and the students at St. Joan Antida shared from her blog The Present Tense through the Marquette EducatorEach week, we will share a post from Dr. Gibson about this ongoing journey. Please check back to read more about this exciting partnership and transformative learning process.

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On Curiosity

By Dr. Melissa Gibson

It is in fact nothing short of a miracle that the modern methods of instruction have not yet entirely strangled the holy curiosity of inquiry; for this delicate little plant, aside from stimulation, stands mainly in need of freedom; without this it goes to wrack and ruin without fail.

Albert Einstein

What do you notice when you walk outside in the morning?

Me, I notice how the light is dappled differently through the east-facing trees in September than it is in July. I notice the smell of toasting bread from the corner bakery. I notice that some mornings the grass is heavy with dew. I notice the remnants of a car window smashed into the street. I notice an older woman rushing to the #60 bus and my neighbor languidly walking his dog with coffee in hand. Even in my own frantic race out of the house, I notice. And that noticing usually turns into wondering—sometimes on task (“What exactly is the dew point, again?” and “I wonder whose car got broken into?”), sometimes not (“Why is adult life just one big rush to get everywhere and still always end up late?”).

This is just the fabric of my mind’s life: noticing and wondering, wondering and noticing. In other words, I take for granted that I am curious and that curiosity drives my experience of the world.


Curiosity is a basic prerequisite for meaningful learning. We can, of course, memorize facts and practice skills without curiosity; we can get good grades and jump through academic hoops without curiosity. But meaningful learning, the kind that lights our souls on fire and can project us into states of flow, requires something more than external motivation. It requires curiosity.

It’s a stale lament—and often a deeply oppressive one—that students lack curiosity.  We teachers wonder what happened to turn our students from the curious little beings who asked so many “why” questions that we wanted to scream to the stony-faced, half-sleeping, resistant teens before us, but the answer is at least partly simple: School happened. The skill-and-drill of the standardized testing regime, the age-old banking of disembodied content, the grading of right and wrong answers, the sitting in desks with few opportunities to explore, the monotony of a teacher’s droning voice.

School happened.

What heartbreaking knowledge—both as a teacher who might perpetuate this mind-numbing system and as a human who has spent the majority of their life inside schools, fighting to hold onto a flourishing life of the mind. Layer in the exclusion and oppression that students of color, queer students, low-income students, neurodivergent students, and recently immigrated students face and one wonders how we don’t have a youth rebellion on our hands.

Except we do. It’s called disengagement.

There are 24 students in the weekly local history workshop that I am facilitating. 24 students who, for one reason or another, need to make up a high school social studies credit after disengaging. My charge for the thirteen weeks is to spark their curiosity about our city and the stories we tell about it. I have a whole host of instructional tools I’ll use—local history media, field experiences, oral history gathering, guest speakers, participatory mapping, food stories—but none of that means anything unless we cultivate curiosity.


​Here I am, on a bright Wednesday afternoon, our second together, checking students into their Covid seating arrangement before we head out on a neighborhood walk. Today’s objective is simply to notice the world around us. We are going to walk, cameras in hand, and observe the neighborhood. We are going to capture images of things that speak to us, whether because they are interesting or curious or funny or beautiful or for no reason we can articulate. We are going to notice and photograph, wonder and walk. And we’re going to call that history class.

Now, in the week prior and the week since, I have had to talk my trained-social-studies-teacher-self back from the ledge. What is this nonsense I’m doing? This isn’t social studies. What about the content and the standards and the democratic and discursive skills and…? Here I stop and remind myself: I am cultivating curiosity. Because before we can get to any of that, we have to be curious about the world we live in. We have to start noticing what this world is, and then start wondering: Why is it like this? How did it come to be? What else could it be like? Do I like it? Why or why not? What am I not seeing in the world around me? How does this world make me feel? What might those feelings be trying to tell me? If I want the “official” learning to be anything more than useless information (which they could access via Google anyways, so what would even be the point of that??), we need to be curious. We need to notice and wonder and, then, think and learn.

How do you accomplish that in two hours, once a week, with a group of reluctant social studies students? We started with a tree.

What is this? I asked the students while holding up a slice of tree trunk. What do the lines tell us? They of course knew: the rings tell us about the tree’s age. Yes, but when you’re walking down the street, what do you see? You might notice the tree is large and therefore probably old, but you don’t know how old; you don’t know when it grew slowly and when it grew quickly; you can’t see the scars of drought and flooding and fire. When we walk down the street, we see the bark of trees. We can stop there. Or, we can wonder: what stories does this tree have to tell us? What would I see if I could peel back this bark?

Of course, I’m not only talking about trees. And so I let Clint Smith help me out here. In his new book, How the Word Is Passed,  he explores how slavery is memorialized or forgotten at a variety of historical sites in North America and Senegal. In a recent NPR piece, he tells a bit of the story of Angola Prison, the largest maximum-security prison in the US. Angola is built on top of a former Louisiana plantation; today, incarcerated men—mostly Black—still work cotton fields under the rifles of overseers. That alone is a horrific layering. But in this interview, Smith talks about visiting the Angola gift shop (WTF, I know), where there are mugs for sale that say, “Angola. A gated community,” and where you can buy a twenty-foot poster of a white overseer watching out over a field of incarcerated Black men who are picking cotton. The image is in black-and-white, so you have to do a hard look to determine whether it is pre- or post-1863. And then you can go tour the barracks, take your picture on death row, and watch the men farming from your bus as you leave the Angola grounds. Smith asks in his book and in this interview, “How can such a place exist?”

My students are agape as they listen to the interview clip. I have, purposefully, chosen a horrific example of what we might see beneath the bark; it’s also an important example. What we take for granted as “just the way the world is” is often masking important perspective and history. How can we train ourselves to wonder how the world came to be this way—and then to care about the answer?

Next, we walk. Thirty minutes around East Town, a tony neighborhood near the lake and downtown, full of young professionals and college students. It’s the only neighborhood in Milwaukee served by the new, free Hop train. It is the neighborhood my students visit for school, but it is not their neighborhood. Their task is to document what they see in photos. They can do this free form, or they can participate in a photo scavenger hunt. What’s important is that they are noticing.

When we left for the walk, we were 150 minutes into knowing one another. They were polite but skeptical; they didn’t say much to me. When they came back thirty minutes later, they were new students. Their masks were off, so I could see their smiles. They were laughing as they ran towards school from all different directions. They traded phones to look at one another’s photos. They talked to me: Janel telling me about the church on the corner and how her grandma used to go there; Luz confessing she was scared to walk around the neighborhood without an adult. Mel and Shakira were on tiptoes watching the dance class practice percussion. Karen’s group showed us their video of Lake Michigan; Ashanti’s group laughed hysterically when we noticed they were all holding Panera cups; even Asia, who had not yet uttered a word in my presence, was talking with her classmates. The students were buzzing.

It was, of course, sunny. And it was, of course, warm. It was definitely Not School, and it was definitely novel to go strolling around the neighborhood with relative freedom. But when we returned to the classroom, the energy persisted. Without my prompting, the students whipped out their laptops and started organizing and sharing photos. Linda looked at me hungrily and said, “What’s next?” They dove into the storytelling task (“Tell a story about the neighborhood in three pictures”) and begged for more time than we had. When the bell rang, they were still working; we hurried through announcements and next steps while they gathered belongings and before they bolted.

Luz stopped at the door on her way out. “This was really fun,” she said, and then nodded goodbye.


​Someone looking at how we spent those 120 minutes could argue that we didn’t do anything. There was no content covered. There was no writing practice. There wasn’t a clear disciplinary connection. To an outsider, this might look like a high school version of playtime. And it was. Because in that playtime, something important happened: They noticed; they wondered. They laughed and explored. They were curious, and they left class hungry for more.

Dr. Gibson has given permission to have her reflections about this ongoing work with Dr. Doerr-Stevens and the students at St. Joan Antida shared from her blog The Present Tense through the Marquette EducatorEach week, we will share a post from Dr. Gibson about this ongoing journey. Please check back to read more about this exciting partnership and transformative learning process.


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